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File name Destruction/recreation/ixperiencit File created date 03:25 am Sunday, November 16 2008
destruction and recreation of the ixperiencit
What are the conditions that are purposed where you have identical sf and consciousness and do not have identical ixperiencit. Fission cases, multiple cases,
non continuousness of matter, non continuousness of sf, non continuousness of consciousness. Non identicalness of production
There is the whole problem of the creation and destruction of the ixperiencit. Under what conditions kill off the old ixperiencit and what conditions produce a brand new ixperiencit. Can the ixperiencit travel between bodies? Is the ixperiencit from two identical sf and consciousness bodies different from the ix (ixperiencit) from two non identical sf and conscious bodies?
Since you can not tell the past from two identical sf bodies alone how can you make any kind of prediction about the properties of the ix. If there are two identical sf and conscious bodies but different ix how can we determine a difference where other than just saying they are different are they different they are different in place time or past history. But saying that they are different in this way does not tell us how they are different in the ixperiencit these are external differences that have no bearing on what the ixperiencit. You have to have a specific difference and it is not in consciousness or in sf so how is it different?
We have the added problem that consciousness changes over time but the ixperiencit is supposed to stay the same-- for a period of time in your life you have the same ixperiencit. If the ixperiencit is changing for the same person then can ixperiencit jump around to other people. If it can then this is a form of immortality
Does a continuum concept apply to the ixperiencit concept when there is identical sf and consciousness? If there is this situation then there would be no clear cut answer to is it the same ixperiencit or not do I experience it or not the answer I sort of ixperiencit it. There is also the case where you simply say that we do not know. There are two ways of looking at this incomplete knowledge or there is not answer no matter how much is known. The ultimate knowing god could not know this. Because there is no answer or the answer is unknowable? In the case of a god we would say it is a situation like can god make a rock so heavy that he can not pick it up, can god make something that he cannot destroy. Can god make something that he can not understand or something he can not know about?
If you do not have a continuum that applies to the ix in identical sf and consciousness cases where there is a difference in the ix then there will be a point where some difference like one neuron, one atom one moment of time will be the difference in the death of the ixperiencit and creation of another completely different ixperiencit. Like the case where the replacement of 50 percentage plus one neuron or atom make the person have a different ixperiencit. Or in the case of assimilation where if the speed of replacement is one bit faster it will have a different ixperiencit. It has to be reasonable explained why such a small change in matter replacement speed etc will make such a large change in the ixperiencit. The best they can do is say well it seem like it should. Reduction to absurdity. Reduction to incomprehensibility
All we have to do is show that our position of multiplicity is not absurd getting the multiplicity with out everyone experiencing it all at the same time
Identical sf and consciousness are not conceptually, logically, or physically impossible, they may not even be unlikely.
This means that even though there are identical consciousness there are two separate different people ixperiencits that are experiencing this consciousness.
If consciousness alone is not the ixperiencit then there is the possibility that when you have the same consciousness you may not have the same ixperiencit. There are many conditions that have be purposed so that there can not be more than one you or more than one ixperiencit for each person at a time. These conditions are randomly to serve a purpose rather to satisfy empirical evidence
if the ixperiencit is destroyed and recreated in any of the cases then there has to be one that is also recreated as well. So we have to have theory that not only kills off the original ixperiencit it also has to be able to create some one else's brain new ixperiencit out of the blue no gradual creation like the original but brand new fully mature ixperiencit. How can you make this complex theory of creation of the ixperiencit? There are many way to make the same sf so there are many possible ways to produce the sam consciousness but the key is that each one will be different even if the process in creating it is exactly the same. (idoriginal argument)
I can not be in two or more places at once belief is a major issue for people and philosophers.
Is it deductively irrational that you can experience being two or more at the same time? Does it break a logical law?
Is it inductively irrational that you can experience being two or more at the same time?
It is only intuitively difficult to see how this is possible for some people that have not been taught other wise
Some say it is conceptually impossible. This means that it is a concept that can not exist. It certainly is an imaginable concept. It solves many problems. It makes a coherent belief system. It makes a coherent philosophical and scientific system. It is very predictive.
From your perspective you do not experience it. Others that could be you are part of your consciousness as bodies not as consciousness.
Does ever conscious being have an ixperiencit? Since the ixperiencitness forms a nd- continuum the ixperiencitness will change depending on the consciousness
Problems with universality is that it is a limiting factor by being a simplifying factor or visa versa. Universality (zuboff’s 2007 video) is the concept that we are not only multiple yous but one universal you in that you experience everything that is experienced. You could say god wants to experience everything so he does it through all the different consciousness beings or the awareness of all the aware creatures. Of course this make us a part of god rather than separate from him. This is a very different kind of god than the christian muslim jewish god that is separate from man. Religions is a business that makes a living for the people involved. It also satisfy certain peoples needs for power or control over others. We can get others to do what we want if we can convince them of certain ideas that give us control over them like heaven and hell helping people through fulfilling prayers and punishing in this life etc.