Ixperiencit contradiction 3

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The ixperiencit contradiction is that if a different person --(physipath) has your ixperiencit (which means that I experience it) but yet I do not in fact experience it, isn’t this a contradiction that makes the multiple theory of consciousness false?

Explanations supporting evidence There are many proofs for the multiple theory

Limited perspective argument

Each awarepath is a limited conscious perspective. Each ixperiencit has many different conscious perspectives

I do not experience all consciousnesses from my limited perspective as I do not experience the past or future from my limited perspective. I only have a limited perspective even if they exist in the present

Why do you have to experience it at the same time? It implies that you have to be everything all at once. If all actual version of your awarepaths were to be experienced at the same time it would change the consciousness being produced. This would mean that the existence of another version of you no matter where it was would change your consciousness and make you doubly aware. It would not allow for the many variations of consciousness to be produced that you experience

It would mean that there would have to be a difference in the consciousness being produced by an cidentireplica. This is clearly a contradiction also because a cidentireplica has the same conscious as the original. So there has to be a factor that actually applies to consciousness that makes the two consciousnesses different? But there is none. Then you have to explain why it only applies when there is another cidentireplica not when there is not each new cidentireplica will have to have this new feature of consciousness that makes it different from any of the previous cidentireplicas or original.

Since we are not talking about the difference in the physical nature of the cidentireplica only the difference is something beyond the consciousness -- the ixperiencit concept different physipaths can produce the same consciousness

It makes for a theory that is unscientific, illogical, incoherent

even though it seems like a contradiction this maybe (is) the way nature is and the nature of the

travel into time paradox. If you have to experience at the same time you will never to be able to travel in time. If you travel in time and can see your self in the future or past this will be a case of you seeing a case of your self with a different consciousness at the sam time

Just a difference in perspective argument

Maybe everything is happening simultaneously and it is consciousness that makes it seem like it is linear. So all versions of you are happening at the same time all actual

Maybe it only seems like you do not experience it. We can look at it as a jumble of experiences all of which you experience all is a difference arrangement that’s what the original is experiencing at the same time.

Maybe our perspective of simultaneousness is distorted

Since we have shown that versions of your consciousness can be produced at the same time the burden of proof and creation of a science to explain all for linearairity is on the this theory how will they explain having identical consciousness and version of identical consciousness but not being a case of the same experienced? What they have done is say it is not the same person but his is not what is being claimed. Clearly a different person but the same ixperiencit or a version of it.

There is no law that says that there can not be identical ixperiencits produced at the same time. It is just that if it is my experience I should experience it not all the experience that you will experience happens at once.

Why should it -- consciousness ixperiencit only happen once? And never again?

There are many cases consciousness that can be imagined and constructed where there are consciousness that actually tie together the different version into a simultaneous consciousness so it is like having the two or more together.

The two consciousness can be combined in many different ways if you have to experience the two simultaneously how would this happen? There are numerous of ways to unite consciousness which one will be the correct one? Show all the ways of combining two consciousness

having to unite actual consciousness into a -- one actual consciousness drastic limits the amount of consciousness produced. Will it always be the same one all the time? Why this one?

Maybe they actually are united in some way by the fitoprocess. You actually get all possible combinations but from your limited perspective you only see one. The consciousness that have effect on the world are the two complete bodies but all other combination are also produced as well.

Concept of mega summation Concept of total aggregate summation of simi awarepaths: Concept of total aggregate summation of awarepaths in a physipath: Concept of total aggregate summation of awarepaths in a fitophysipath:

A physipath may produce more than one awarepath at the same time that are not aware of each other they can be partially aware of each other, they may or may not have the same ixperiencit. The universe as a whole can be looked as one awarepaducer that is producing many different awarepaths some more aware of each other and some not aware of each other.

The concept of mega summation can be used as an another proof for solving the ixperiencit contradiction. Proof would go this way If a brain can produce more that one awarepath that can be unaware of each other, a universe that contains different physipaths that together produces awarepaths threw the fito process can be unaware of each other as well

How can it be my ixperiencit, if I do not experience it when it is actual? First you do experience it. Second the ixperiencit is broader than just one perspective. This can be seen when we imagine the being actual with our future or past selves. This could be countered by saying we can never be actual with our future or past selves. But his is with the assumption that we can not travel in time and or that there is something special about the same person. But this creates all sorts of problems cases like making up artificial concepts like material assimilation, dissolution, etc.,

Dissolution is where is division cases there is not one or more of the originals left, there is no original, even though there can be more than one identical functioning bodies with identical amounts of the matter from the original. Puff the original is gone even though you have two or more identically behaving looking acting people

Material assimilation is that there is a speed limit to how fast matter can be assimilated in the body if material is switched faster than that limit even though you have the exact same structure functioning behavior consciousness etc it is not the same person.

There are all sorts of ways of constructing physipaths that have your ixperiencit or a close version

Container awarepath proof

Can a current consciousness have such a good creativity or recreation that it can fully create a total awarepath of the future or past at the present? The more that we concentrate the better a past reconstruction can be since a reconstruction can be false it could as easily be of the future events that one thinks will happen from one has experienced from the past and with creativity these elements can be rearranged into a new experience that will be the future awarepath. We are more than our limited perspective

This would be a case of an awarepath that contains part its own future or past awarepath. You would need the concept of contraction of the awarepath if you wanted it to become like a regular human awarepath . This is because a awarepath with in an awarepath would be more complex than a normal human awarepath. Dreams and daydreams are like this but they do not contain nearly the complexity of a regular human awarepath. The contraction would be from a more complex awarepath that contains a complete awarepath to just a normal human awarepath. I can imagine all sorts of awarepaths within awarepaths that are of the same ixperiencit. In this perspective your ixperiencit actually does experience

All awarepaths can be constructed in this way. The over awarepath has totally created the subawarepath

What are all the relationships that can be imagined between superior awarepath and inferior awarepath?

1. Degree of diffence in complexity between container and containee

2. Degree of awareness of the containee of the container or visa versa.

3. Degree of control of the container awarepath over the containee awarepath or visa versa.

4. Length of the contanee awarepath within the container awarepath.

5. Type of continuousness of the contaner and container

6. Number of containees in the container

Contridiction proof

Show that there are worse contridictions and problems if it is not true.

What happens if this is not the case?-- If you can never have two separate consciousness that have the same ixpereincit? Are you allowing identical consciousness in the argument? There are many arguments that there are identical consciousnesses that can be produced. This would imply that a particular consciousness can only exist once this produce a lot of problems. But lets allow that identical consciousness can exist, but that there can not be identical ixperiencits. Show that this leads to many problems or contridiction that are worse than the ixperiencit contradiction. First, this means that the conditions that makes this identical ixpereincit can never exist again. What is the proof of this?

What is the ixperiencit concept does it change for a person over time? If so can it repeat

It has to be a supernatural concept not materialistic