Proofs

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Rational proof that identical structure and functioning produce identical consciousness.

And that a change in matter, space, and time will not influence the structure and functioning under certain

Explain how the QM effect will not change this consequence. It can be consider like any other removable changing external physipath modifier

Self reporting of conscious experience Solution to the problem of lying or dishonesty about self reporting ones conscious experience. repetition of subjective experience of the experimenter

Experimental proof that identical structure and functioning produce identical consciousness.

Repetition and close approximation of structure and functioning to get empirical data of the consciousness produced

with out doing the actual experiments what can we know about the experiments before we do them. Approximating the experiments can give us approximations about the actual consciousness produced

Does the fact that we cannot currently do these experiments effect the results? What if we can never do the actual experiments?

What can we know with out actually doing the experiments? Some changes will effect what is reported more than others. Some changes will not effect the reported consciousness at all. Reports about latter in the physipath can be used to determine consciousness at an earlier time same with earlier reports such as I am beginning to feel such and such a way or to think such as such thoughts or to speak such and such words to my self etc. by studying all the physimoments around a specific physimoment we can gather information about a specific awaremoment or sequences of awaremoments. We can use the concept of a physicontinuum to make predictions about the awarecontinuum. Assumptions we can make that close approximation physipaths very close to that of the study subject awarepath will have a consciousness close to that of the

a close approximation will report a close or exact duplicate of the consciousness.

Because of duplication at each moment that we are studying many different questions can be asked and observation can be made. 

It is a logical necessity that certain changes will not effect the out come of behavior It is a logical necessity that certain changes in the physipath will not effect the out come or behavior.

Can you believe the self reports of the test subject? Can he respond with out actually being conscious?

If there is consciousness being produced is it guaranteed that this person is responding properly.

Do we have to prove that in every case the person is conscious? The original might not be conscious either even though the original is responding as if he were. This might be where you take the copy of the experimenter that believes or has subjective experience the problem with accepting the possibility of zombies is that you have a more complex phenomenon that has to be explained or you have to give up the belief that you can understand zombies. Then you have the issue is life better with a non existent theory of zombies or better with a understandable theories of zombies or their non existence. An understandable theory of zombies is having one or more extra conditions that determine zombie-ness. There is no reason to accept this with out proof and how can you prove the existence of non conscious animate beings being produced exactly the same way that conscious beings are being produced with out showing a difference that is shown to make this difference? You can say that matter, time, or space makes this difference because these will be different in different experiments of identical sf.

Another experiment is taking the experimenter and changing the sf slowly over time and observe the behavior with questions. we start with a conscious being and where will this being no longer be conscious? You have to have a reason that this person is no longer conscious. The same matter can be used over and over there can be continuous consciousness and complete physical continuity if desired or required. We may not know anything for certain until we know everything and we can never know if we know everything. Life is all about having better reasons to believe one set of ideas over another. The better, more useful, or true our understanding of reality the better our awarepaths / lives can be. It will also apply to the continuation of conscious beings. If we make enough wrong decisions we will not continue to survive or perpetuate conscious beings.